of course it's the bloody oil, stupid, + US$s, hegemony and land-theft

.. one really gets tired ...

  .. of the really stupid lies ...

    .. what's in it for the stupid liars?

Thesis/Subtitle: usually, it's not a good idea

Concomitant: to call people really stupid

Corollary: but IF true THEN not sorry

-=*=-

Actual theme: Syria, and the world, getting US/Z-F+UK'D.
 
 [updated, 19:51, 30Aug, 31Aug.]

Preamble, found on the web:

CIA Internal Histories

Document 1 (Cover Sheet, Summary, I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, Appendix A, Appendix B, Appendix C, Appendix D, Appendix E): CIA, Clandestine Services History, Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of Iran: November 1952 – August 1953, Dr. Donald N. Wilber, March 1954

Source: The New York Times

I downloaded the Cover Sheet, Summary and Appendix A.

From the Cover Sheet:
SECRET
HISTORIAN'S NOTE
This paper, entitled Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of Iran, ...
Project TPAJAX ...
...
Editor's Note:
The C.I.A.'s history of the 1953 coup in Iran is made up of the following documents: a historian's note, a summary introduction, a lengthy narrative account written by Dr. Donald N. Wilber, and, as appendices, five planning documents he attached. On April 16, 2000, The New York Times on the Web published the introduction and several of the appendices.
...

From the summary:
SECRET
SUMMARY
By the end of 1952, it had become clear that the Mossadeq government in Iran was incapable of reaching an oil settlement with interested Western countries;
...
was motivated mainly by Mossadeq's desire for personal power;
...
and had cooperated closely with the Tudeh (Communist) Party of Iran
...
and if that happened it would mean a victory for the Soviets in the Cold War and a major setback for the West in the Middle East. No remedial action other than the covert action plan ...
...
It was the aim of the TPAJAX project to cause the fall of the Mossadeq government ... and replace [it with one] ... which would reach an equitable oil settlement, ...
...
In Iran, CIA and SIS propaganda assets were to conduct an increasingly intensified propaganda effort ...
...
In cooperation with the Department of State, CIA had several articles planted in major American newspapers and magazines which, when reproduced in Iran, had the desired psychological effect in Iran and contributed to the war of nerves against Mossadeq.
...

From Appendix A:
SECRET
SUMMARY
1. Preliminary action
 A. Interim Financing of Opposition
  1. CIA will supply $35,000 to Zahedi.
  2. SIS will supply $25,000 to Zahedi.
...

That was 1953; switching to 2013, and end preamble.

-=*=-

Trigger article 1:

Waging War in Syria ‘to Make a Point’?
 John Glaser, August 26, 2013
  «Aaron David Miller thinks the Obama administration will bomb Syria, aiming not to topple the Assad regime but to “make a point.”
...
“Obama has come around to the view that regime change is more fraught with dangers than letting Assad remain.”
...
The alternative is ugly. If the Obama administration tried to bomb the Assad regime out of existence, the U.S. would then have to militarily occupy Syria, ... That occupation would last for the foreseeable future, ...» 
[antiwar/Glaser]

Comment: It's ridiculous to say that the US is not interested in deposing Assad - that was their loudly stated purpose; Mme Clinton; Assad "must go!" (About 236,000 results) Then the CIA helped arm the jihadis imported through TR and JOR, say. It's even more ridiculous to say that the US will attack Syria to slap Assad on the wrist?

Trigger article 2:

Bombing Syria ‘Just Enough Not to Get Mocked,’ Or, Where Does America Get Off?
 John Glaser, August 28, 2013
  «One U.S. official who has been briefed on the options on Syria said he believed the White House would seek a level of intensity “just muscular enough not to get mocked” but not so devastating that it would prompt a response from Syrian allies Iran and Russia.
“They are looking at what is just enough to mean something, just enough to be more than symbolic,” he said.
So not only are we bombing another country “to make a point,” but we’re doing it in a way that ensures we won’t “get mocked.”
...
Why should military action be necessitated by outrage over chemical attacks? Was there a red line on chemical weapons when the US used depleted-uranium ammunition in Fallujah, Iraq? Was there a red line when Israel deployed white phosphorous in Gaza in 2008? Or when Saddam Hussein, then a western ally, gassed the Iranians and then his own people during the 1980s? This arbitrary and self-serving declaration of what’s acceptable is precisely what makes the US so lacking in credibility when it comes to preaching codes of warfare to the Middle East.» 
[antiwar/Glaser]

Comment: All this, and *zero* proof that any gas attack in Syria was by Assad's forces.

Trigger article 3:

Fort Hood shooter sentenced to death for 2009 killings
Posted August 29, 2013 05:57:57 | Updated August 29, 2013 13:15:35
  «A US military jury has sentenced former army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan to death by lethal injection for killing 13 people in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas.» 
[AusBC/'news']

Comment: How does walking into some compound to kill innocents with hand-guns differ from US/Z-F+UK'D ships, planes and submarines firing bullets, bombs and rockets into a country to kill innocents remotely by robot? Especially given that there is *no* proof any gas attack in Syria was by Assad's forces, rather the 'alternative thesis,' that so-called 'rebels,' currently losing both battles and the whole fake civil war (which is actually more of an aggressive foreign invasion/fomented jihad), is much more likely?

-=*=-

Argument: First, it was Cheney/Rumsfeld: "Not oil!" Then the accessories, finally the apologists and mostly r-whinger-trolls: "Not oil!"

Me: Not credible. UK was interested in ME oil, latest when British warships started being changed from coal to oil, before WW1, see Churchill:

"During the war, he continued as First Lord of the Admiralty until the disastrous Gallipoli Campaign caused his departure from government."

Re Mesopotamia in 1920, Churchill:

"I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes."

According to wiki (which may be fiddled), the poms did not actually deploy poisoned gas in 1920, and/but there is no evidence to show that Assad's forces did in 2013 either.

That US and UK both want Iran's oil is proven by the preamble quotes. Note that while Syria is not a major oil-owner, it sits on a prime-pipeline route or two, namely an N/S one desired mainly by Qatar, and an E/W one already signed by Iran, Iraq and Syria. Hmmm.

F and D both abstained from the "Shock'n whore" of Iraq by B,B&H = US (the Z-wagged dog), UK (the poodle) + Aus (the dag), and afterwards (having missed out on spoil), F and D were sooo sorry, that Sarkozy practically jumped the gun getting into Libya, and Westerwelle (who sharply criticised Sarkozy in Mar'11) is now full-on screeching hate at Syria, D staying out of the 'firing line' only because it would probably cost the govt. any possible chance of re-election.

-=*=-

Fazit: We can assume that although the name of the game is no longer the same ('coup' morphed to 'Arab-spring,' say), the aim of the game remains exactly the same, namely US$s, hegemony and yes, still the bloody oil = murder for spoil, here oil, and land-theft, the latter by the Zs, from mainly Palestine and any other bits the Zs can improperly alienate by ever more genocidal ethnic cleansing, also murder for spoil, here soil. The Syrian bit that most interests the Zs here is the Z-occupied Golan Heights, both for land and water.

The big Q: How/why can these US/Z-F+UK'D rogue-regimes get away with Nuremberg-class = capital-crimes, the very same crimes for which others have been / will be executed?

And where, exactly, is truth + justice = peace?

-=*end*=-

^ Update, 19:51; PS The evening news shows both Obama and Cameron rowing backwards from an immediate intervention, and both UK-opposition and Merkel calling for 'wait and see' what the UN inspectors find - although it is *not* the inspectors' remit to investigate "Who?" So the final smashing of Syria seems postponed for now - but these psychopathic US/Z-F+UK'D criminals simply cannot keep their hands in their pockets for too long.

And don't forget the Pentagon's 'take-out' (=smash) wish-list of 7 countries in 5 years (leaked ~10 days after 9/11), and the (US/Z's) road to Tehran goes through Damascus.

[«back»]

-=*=-

^ Update, 30Aug; PPS Extraordinary ...

"something is happening here
 but you don't know what it is"

From my unfavourite PFBC:

1. British government says it has legal authority to attack Syria without UN ruling
2. British MPs vote against military intervention in Syria
3. Claims Australian troops cut off insurgent's hands('elite special forces')
4. CIA's budget worth $15 billion according to documents leaked by Edward Snowden

1. No; nobody can (with impunity) contravene 'the law,' here the UN Charter. The attempt is to 'write' new law, not by the accepted (democratic?) processes, but by force majeure based on 'supposed' R2P. IMHO not on, and recall that there is no evidence of 'who dunnit.'

2. This surprises me; why did some in Cameron's party rebel? The surprise is more general, now all 4 of US-F+UK'D are 'rowing back.' So Q: What went wrong? A: They're not saying = it's a 'secret?'

3. Proves the military has *some* psychopaths; I'd say *most* are - in order to kill people, perpetrators must be 'not normal' = sub-human.

4. CIA = $15bio + NSA = 10bio. All for 'covert ops' from spying (also on us, we the people) to murdering - mostly innocents (lethal drones, say) plus bribery, sabotage etc. - mostly illegal things, mostly attemptedly hidden by lies. Perpetrators have to lie, else they would self-convict.

Comment: "Secrecy is a mortal enemy of democracy!"

Further comment: The 'oil deal' Mossadeq was rejecting was probably similar to the one I found when researching this article, namely only 16% going to Iran. Amazingly similar to Aus 'losing' ~83% to FDI. Hmmm?

Just in (NYT): "Obama Set for Limited Strike on Syria as British Vote No"

Me: Vicious, criminal rogue-regime; let the tumbrels roll!

[«back»]

-=*=-

^ Update, 31Aug; PPPS A John Kerry 'Colin Powell' moment:

1. AusBC: "US says world cannot let Assad get away with chemical attack"

2. US govt.: "Assessment of the Syrian Government’s Use of Chemical Weapons"

3. Sample false-flag: "Obama administration complicit in war crime?"

Comment: IMHO, Kerry dissembled (the US has 'loose with the truth' form). IMHO, their 'evidence' is unconvincing (proof = UK parliament rejected it). IMHO, something like (3) is more than possible, it's most probable. The people may decide ("Polls show the American public is largely opposed"), but sadly (sham democracies) we, the people have *no* influence.

[«back»]

-=*=-

Ref(s):

[1] deceive  v. (-ving) 1 make (a person) believe what is false; purposely mislead. 2 be unfaithful to, esp. sexually. 3 use deceit.  deceive oneself persist in a mistaken belief.  deceiver n. [POD]

[2] lie2  -n. 1 intentionally false statement (tell a lie). 2 something that deceives. -v. (lies, lied, lying) 1 tell a lie or lies. 2 (of a thing) be deceptive.  give the lie to show the falsity of (a supposition etc.). [Old English] [ibid.]

[3] conspiracy  n. (pl. -ies) 1 secret plan to commit a crime; plot. 2 conspiring. [Latin: related to *conspire] [ibid.]

Abbreviations:

ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers

I/J/Z-plex; illegitimate IL squats on genocidally ethnically-cleansed = improperly alienated, mainly Palestinian ELO/Os' land/property = IL is an un-remedied crime-scene and *all* I/J/Z-plex (except any actively opposing) are guilty; sole remedy = reparations = revest where possible, adequate = acceptable recompense where not + *sincere* apology

M/I/C/$4a†-plex = military, industrial, Congress (US-speak for parliament); $ = banksters, 4 = 4th estate = MSM+PFBCs, 'a' = academia incl. think-tanks, † = the churches.

MSM = mainstream media (print and broadcast), aka 'corrupt&venal'

neoliberalism = 'economic rationalism,' 'supply-side,' (wicked) privatisations, 'small govt.' = minimised to no égalité etc. + globalisation = wage arbitration etc. = <1% rips off 99%+

PFBCs = publicly-financed broadcasters, like the AusBC

ppp-dd'd = pushed-propaganda paradigm dumbed-down

PRopaganda = PR + propaganda, usual qualifier: 'lying'

SQSHsO = snivelling quisling sycophantic hangers-on

the Enlightenment well summarised by liberté, égalité, fraternité

US-MMH = Media (aka press, radio + TV), Madison Ave., Hollywood

US&/Zs = the US of A and/or Zionists; sometimes indistinguishable

XS-CO2-C*4 = excess CO2 climate-change catastrophe cliff
 (suspected only one-way = spiral-down)

Zionism (latest post-Jabotinsky, '23) = perpetual aggressive war

9/11 - the gift that just keeps on giving

.. 'democratic' free speech ...

  .. one can say whatever one likes ...

    .. just as long as one is quite ineffective

Thesis/Subtitle: once again in Syria we see ...

Concomitant: a crime in progress ...

Corollary: well, cui bono?

-=*=-
 
 [updated, 11:31, 16:11]

-=*=-

Musing: I Heard it through the grapevine: There will be war, another one, illegal like the rest since end WW2, a war of aggression vs. the sovereign state of Syria. Big bloody deal - how many innocents did you already kill in your filthy wars, USA + accessories, and how many more, before you are finally brought to justice?

We know there will be a war; a) we now have the message from the aggressor-in-chief via the corrupt&venal MSM, echoed in the PFCBs, and b) it's just another iteration of one of the US rogue-regime's criminal modi operandi.

We know that we (the people, or we the anti-wars) cannot stop this war; since we've been here before (the disgusting "Shock'n whoring" of Iraq), and we couldn't stop that one, so this time there are fewer even trying.

We also know that those whose job it is (UN, human rights NGOs etc.) will not stop this war - in fact, many-such are helping the criminal aggressors. Off to gaol with the accessory-lot!

We also suspect that those who stand to lose, beyond us, we the people, countries like Russia or China, will not stop the US, F+UK/NATO, plus other SQSHsO-regimes from smashing Syria (most likely due to intimidation - by what threats, we wonder?) The attackers have neither (good) morals nor effective restraint.

Why and by whom are such travesties allowed?

Poor hapless, innocent Syrians, just like the Iraqis, all the way back to the Palestinians.

End musing.

-=*=-

Trigger article:

Kevin Rudd heads to Canberra for briefings on alleged Syrian chemical weapons attack
 By Rosanna Ryan and wires
 Updated August 24, 2013 14:25:16
  «Mr Rudd had been scheduled to return to Brisbane but changed his plans following conversations this morning with the US ambassador to Australia and the secretary of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet.
"As a result of those discussions ... later today I will go to Canberra and be briefed by our national security officials on unfolding developments and work with officials on any possible and appropriate Australian response, depending on the nature of the brief concerned," he said.
"We are still establishing the facts. We have, together with the US, grave concerns as to what has occurred here.
"But [we need to] establish all facts first in a calm and considered way respond as appropriate."
He says he has requested the Prime Minister's Department make equal national security official briefings available to Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.» 
[AusBC/'news']

Comment 1: Although some write "alleged" (headline), in snip "still establishing the facts," since this incident was first reported, the 'slant' has always been pointed at Assad and/or Syrian govt. troops.

Comment 2: Notice that Rudd is diverting for a 'face to face' briefing, and offers same to Abbott. It means that no matter what, both Lab and Lib are 'on the same page' = bipartisan = un- & anti-democratic (voters offered zero effective choice).

Comment 3: The unspoken narrative is a) Assad is guilty and b) US, F+UK/NATO, plus other SQSHsO-regimes are now committed to smashing Syria.

Comment 4: It's yet another blatant crime, and UN&Co are assisting.

-=*=-

Argument: We know - or should know, that we are being propagandised, and that it's standard practice. Occasionally, the propaganda contains something like "We need to smash such&such regime, to keep our cars in fuel." Of course that's rubbish - the oil producers must sell no matter what - but most people suck it up anyway: "The govt. says so; why should we worry?"

Although what we see is Rudd and Abbott, they are puppets: "following conversations this morning with the US ambassador to Australia ..."

Consider again Bernays: "Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."

Q: Where would one look, for such "an invisible government?"

A: The forces behind the recent smashing of the Guardian's hard drives, or confiscation of Miranda's thumb-drives would give us strong clues.

-=*=-

Fazit: Where the hell is any effective countervailing force?

-=*end*=-

^ Update, 11:31; PS

Extending article 1:

Obama Aides See Kosovo as Precedent for Attacking Syria
Disastrous Kosovo Bombing Campaign Also Ignored UN Opposition
by Jason Ditz, August 23, 2013
  «Officials across NATO have been long trying to put together a war in Syria that would mirror the NATO attack on Libya, in which regime change was imposed after a loophole in a UN Security Council resolution was used as an excuse for total war.» 
[antiwar/Ditz]

Comment: As usual, one should read the lot.

Extending article 2:

Obama Maintains Pretense of Opposing Syria War as Military Readies Strikes
Hagel Confirms Obama Requested Options for Attack
by Jason Ditz, August 23, 2013
  «In an interview with CNN today, President Obama sought to stake out an opposition to war against Syria, even as he has privately ordered the military to draw up additional options for an attack that could be launched at a moment’s notice.» 
[antiwar/Ditz]

Comment: Looks like Obama wants to say that he was pushed into war. Who would believe that?

Extending article 3:

No Proof, But Western Officials Convinced of Syria ‘Chemical Attack’
Rebels Agree to Let Investigators Into Site
by Jason Ditz, August 23, 2013
  «There’s still no real proof and UN inspectors haven’t even gotten to the site, but Western officials say they have “little or no doubt” that Wednesday’s Ghouta incident was a chemical weapons attack.» 
[antiwar/Ditz]

Comment: Evidence? Who needs evidence, when 'the fix is in?'

Extending article 4:

Pentagon Preps Cruise Missiles to Attack Syria
Obama Insists 'No Rush' on Launching Attack
by Jason Ditz, August 23, 2013
  «Officials continue hyping Wednesday’s allegations of a chemical weapons strike, saying that they believe such an attack probably happened even though they don’t have any actual proof to back that up. Conveniently enough, the Pentagon has new plans for attacking Syria.» 
[antiwar/Ditz]

Comment 1: Nobody gives a rat's; it's all war, all the time.

Comment 2: In case the significance of "9/11" in my title is at all queried, the US used 9/11 to go totally berserk.

Comment 3: Any who do nothing to stop a crime make themselves party guilty too. You?

[«back»]

^ Update, 16:11; PPS

In case of any lingering doubt; an extract from a recent eml:

"Care to discuss any false-flag poison-gas massacres, 1300+ dead? US/Zs, F+UK/NATO about to obliterate yet another A/M failing-under-US/Z-pressure state, smashing their infrastructure & killing squillions of innocent collaterals, all grovellingly approved by the corrupt & venal Ban Ki-moon UN + so-called 'human-rights' NGOs&Co?"

Assad would have to be certifiably suicidal to deploy C-weapons.

Sheer idiocy, for the Syrian govt., to even think about it.

So a) why do the propagandists attempt it and b) (worse), why don't the people simply burst out laughing?

Q: Are sooo many totally ppp-dd'd?

A: Apparently so - sooo sad.

[«back»]

-=*=-

Ref(s):

[1] deceive  v. (-ving) 1 make (a person) believe what is false; purposely mislead. 2 be unfaithful to, esp. sexually. 3 use deceit.  deceive oneself persist in a mistaken belief.  deceiver n. [POD]

[2] lie2  -n. 1 intentionally false statement (tell a lie). 2 something that deceives. -v. (lies, lied, lying) 1 tell a lie or lies. 2 (of a thing) be deceptive.  give the lie to show the falsity of (a supposition etc.). [Old English] [ibid.]

[3] conspiracy  n. (pl. -ies) 1 secret plan to commit a crime; plot. 2 conspiring. [Latin: related to *conspire] [ibid.]

Abbreviations:

ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers

I/J/Z-plex; illegitimate IL squats on genocidally ethnically-cleansed = improperly alienated, mainly Palestinian ELO/Os' land/property = IL is an un-remedied crime-scene and *all* I/J/Z-plex (except any actively opposing) are guilty; sole remedy = reparations = revest where possible, adequate = acceptable recompense where not + *sincere* apology

M/I/C/$4a†-plex = military, industrial, Congress (US-speak for parliament); $ = banksters, 4 = 4th estate = MSM+PFBCs, 'a' = academia incl. think-tanks, † = the churches.

MSM = mainstream media (print and broadcast), aka 'corrupt&venal'

neoliberalism = 'economic rationalism,' 'supply-side,' (wicked) privatisations, 'small govt.' = minimised to no égalité etc. + globalisation = wage arbitration etc. = <1% rips off 99%+

PFBCs = publicly-financed broadcasters, like the AusBC

ppp-dd'd = pushed-propaganda paradigm dumbed-down

PRopaganda = PR + propaganda, usual qualifier: 'lying'

SQSHsO = snivelling quisling sycophantic hangers-on

the Enlightenment well summarised by liberté, égalité, fraternité

US-MMH = Media (aka press, radio + TV), Madison Ave., Hollywood

US&/Zs = the US of A and/or Zionists; sometimes indistinguishable

XS-CO2-C*4 = excess CO2 climate-change catastrophe cliff
 (suspected only one-way = spiral-down)

Zionism (latest post-Jabotinsky, '23) = perpetual aggressive war

truth + justice = peace vs. liars murdering to steal what do you choose?

.. IF one has nothing to hide ...

  .. THEN one has nothing to fear ...

    .. so why is the NSA in such a panic?

Thesis/Subtitle: The mafia typifies organised crime,

Concomitant: the mafia murders its opposition -

Corollary: are US/Z regimes any different?

-=*=-

[updated, 15:51; see PPS]

-=*=-

Musing: Honest people can live a full and happy life without lies; they can relatively easily detect lies flung in their direction, reject same, and see no need ever to deploy a single lie - why should they? I know of this process for a fact; by direct observation, admittedly only of a single example. But what works for Martha, will work for every Arthur, why not?

In fact, there's a mathematical method called induction; prove for n=1, then prove that IF the n-th is true IMPLIES that the n+1th is also true, THEN QED.

A lie[2] may be 'loosely' defined as some un-truth, deployed to deceive.

I mention the Zs, because their lies are shockers, that they claim some right to occupy stolen land, say, land stolen by murdering violence.

I mention the US, because their lies are worse, proof = multi-millions murdered, starting 6&9Aug'45, say, continuing to this day via N.Korea, Vietnam, some crappy little countries then Iraq, Libya and currently Syria. All by the US' own hand, or with/by their vicious proxies.

*None* have any right to murder for spoil, ever; the US/Zs are prime perpetrators.

It can also be proven, that the US' democracy, as most others resembling the US model are *sham*, i.e. democracy "of, by, for the people" is mostly honoured in the breach.

So it's the *regimes* that are rogue (except for the I/J/Z-plex, *all* more or less guilty), and with cynically, scientifically ppp-dd'd people, it's the regimes which are to be brought to justice.

End musing.

-=*=-

Trigger article:

Guardian journalist's partner David Miranda takes legal action over Heathrow detention and seizure of Snowden material
By Europe correspondent Mary Gearin, wires
Posted August 21, 2013 07:22:24
  «"With two GCHQ security experts overseeing the destruction of hard drives in the Guardian's basement just to make sure there was nothing in the mangled bits of metal which could possibly be of any interest to passing Chinese agents.
"'We can call off the black helicopters', joked one as we swept up the remains of a MacBook Pro."
Asked by the BBC who he thought was behind those events, Mr Rusbridger said he had "got the sense there was an active conversation" involving government departments, intelligence agencies and the prime minister's Downing Street office.» 
[AusBC/'news']

Comment: 'We can call off the black helicopters', indeed. Recall Manning's 'best leak' = collateral murder.

Background article:

But Does Peeping Tom Protect You?
by L. Reichard White
August 18, 2013
  «Statistics show the U.S. spends more than 50,000 times as much per victim on anti-terrorism than it does on any other cause of death, including heart attack, stroke and cancer. "50,000 times as much" is not a typo. For example, the U.S. spends $500 million ($500,000,000) of [US] tax money per victim on anti-terrorism efforts but only $10,000 per victim on cancer research.» 
[ncc-1776.org/LRWhite]

Comment: The article is packed with good citations; as usual, recommend reading it all.

-=*=-

Argument: Recall what happened; Snowden flew the US/NSA coop, landing in HK and began leaking. The US/NSA began its tantrums. Snowden flew to Russia, from where the US/NSA demanded his extradition, and the US/NSA demanded that P, F, E & I block president of Bolivia Evo Morales' plane, which was then searched in Vienna. Now the Guardian, its journalists and their partners have come under attack, disk-drives being smashed or confiscated.

So why is the US/NSA in such a panic?

-=*=-

Fazit: We can only think that the US/NSA fears worse is yet to come, for the only reason to try to grab Snowden's info is because the US/NSA knows what dreadful secrets that may be exposed.

I, for one, can hardly wait.

-=*end*=-

PS I see another down-side. The acts of the psychopaths running the rogue-regimes are becoming more desperate. I suspect that they may switch from spying on communications in general and the internet in particular, to actively interfering with content (if that's not already happening). How do we know, for example, if Google returns honest search results? Or that sources considered a threat to the psychopaths are being systematically blocked, or even being deleted = flushed down the memory-hole tor-let?

-=*=-

PPS Since then, my ZEIT ONLINE eml arrived (for those who don't 'do' German, I'll explain a bit below):

Trusted Computing: Bundesregierung warnt vor Windows 8
Windows 8 ist ein inakzeptables Sicherheitsrisiko für Behörden und Firmen, warnen Experten der Regierung. Das sogenannte Trusted Computing sei eine Hintertür für die NSA.
[http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/2013-08/trusted-computing-microsoft-windows-8-nsa]»

US-Unternehmen: NSA-Enthüllungen sind schlecht fürs Geschäft
Die Spähaffäre schadet dem Image großer Firmen wie Google und Microsoft. Sie fürchten um Kunden. Und tatsächlich hat bei manchem ein Umdenken begonnen.
[http://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2013-08/nsa-auswirkungen-internetfirmen]»

Basically, the German govt. has decided (says Die Zeit, 'substantiation' pending), that Windows 8 is too dangerous for government/commercial use, specifically due to some "Trusted Computing" feature, which (amongst other functions), provides a direct "back door" to NSA spying, or even NSA (or presumably unspecified others) taking control of the subject computer.

Then, corporations who have cooperated with NSA spying (like Google and Microsoft, say) fear - probably are already experiencing - negative consequences. Haw. Shows some people can exercise good sense?

Anyway, a new oxymoron has been introduced: "Trusted Computing." Who would expect anything else, from Amerika? Oh, and/or their hag-riders, the Zs.

Of course, "nothing to hide ... nothing to fear" is part of the crooked propaganda they try to swamp us with, as they raid our data (to see what they can use against us?) I've written about blackmail, briefings and treason before, here we see some of the evil aggressors' modi operandi exposed.

One other thing; many say "But surely, the Amis mean well?"

Me: No. We see too much evidence, of psychopaths 'at work,' with their lying, cheating and murdering for spoil. One horrific murder, and the populace for hundreds, thousands of km get outraged. The US/Z *rogue-regimes* are directly responsible for *mass* slaughter; they are just too far gone. It's *our*, we the people's responsibility, to save the planet, and stop these rogue-regimes in their criminal tracks.

Roll out the tumbrels.

-=*=-

Ref(s):

[1] deceive  v. (-ving) 1 make (a person) believe what is false; purposely mislead. 2 be unfaithful to, esp. sexually. 3 use deceit.  deceive oneself persist in a mistaken belief.  deceiver n. [POD]

[2] lie2  -n. 1 intentionally false statement (tell a lie). 2 something that deceives. -v. (lies, lied, lying) 1 tell a lie or lies. 2 (of a thing) be deceptive.  give the lie to show the falsity of (a supposition etc.). [Old English] [ibid.]

[3] conspiracy  n. (pl. -ies) 1 secret plan to commit a crime; plot. 2 conspiring. [Latin: related to *conspire] [ibid.]

Abbreviations:

ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers

I/J/Z-plex; illegitimate IL squats on genocidally ethnically-cleansed = improperly alienated, mainly Palestinian ELO/Os' land/property = IL is an un-remedied crime-scene and *all* I/J/Z-plex (except any actively opposing) are guilty; sole remedy = reparations = revest where possible, adequate = acceptable recompense where not + *sincere* apology

M/I/C/$4a†-plex = military, industrial, Congress (US-speak for parliament); $ = banksters, 4 = 4th estate = MSM+PFBCs, 'a' = academia incl. think-tanks, † = the churches.

MSM = mainstream media (print and broadcast), aka 'corrupt&venal'

neoliberalism = 'economic rationalism,' 'supply-side,' (wicked) privatisations, 'small govt.' = minimised to no égalité etc. + globalisation = wage arbitration etc. = <1% rips off 99%+

PFBCs = publicly-financed broadcasters, like the AusBC

ppp-dd'd = pushed-propaganda paradigm dumbed-down

PRopaganda = PR + propaganda, usual qualifier: 'lying'

SQSHsO = snivelling quisling sycophantic hangers-on

the Enlightenment well summarised by liberté, égalité, fraternité

US-MMH = Media (aka press, radio + TV), Madison Ave., Hollywood

US&/Zs = the US of A and/or Zionists; sometimes indistinguishable

XS-CO2-C*4 = excess CO2 climate-change catastrophe cliff
 (suspected only one-way = spiral-down)

Zionism (latest post-Jabotinsky, '23) = perpetual aggressive war

«If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.»

That future is now, arrived at The Guardian, latest Monday 19 August 2013 22.30 BST.

I heard about it on the 6:00 news this morning.

I found the web copy, then found the Guardian articles.

Then the eml from Die Zeit arrived, added their header to the list.

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Key article extract:

David Miranda, schedule 7 and the danger that all reporters now face
As the events in a Heathrow transit lounge – and the Guardian offices – have shown, the threat to journalism is real and growing
Alan Rusbridger
The Guardian, Monday 19 August 2013 22.30 BST
  «The man was unmoved. And so one of the more bizarre moments in the Guardian's long history occurred – with two GCHQ security experts overseeing the destruction of hard drives in the Guardian's basement just to make sure there was nothing in the mangled bits of metal which could possibly be of any interest to passing Chinese agents. "We can call off the black helicopters," joked one as we swept up the remains of a MacBook Pro.
Whitehall was satisfied, but it felt like a peculiarly pointless piece of symbolism that understood nothing about the digital age. We will continue to do patient, painstaking reporting on the Snowden documents, we just won't do it in London. The seizure of Miranda's laptop, phones, hard drives and camera will similarly have no effect on Greenwald's work.» 
[The Guardian/Alan Rusbridger]

Comment: Government 'security' goons smashing computers.

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Argument: No argument; we're stuffed.

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Fazit: No further comment.

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PS Some related articles:

David Miranda: 'They said I would be put in jail if I didn't co-operate'
Partner of Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald gives his first interview on nine-hour interrogation at Heathrow airport
Jonathan Watts in Rio de Janeiro
The Guardian, Monday 19 August 2013 21.30 BST
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David Miranda detention: a betrayal of trust and principle
This subverted the benefit of the doubt that liberal democracies ask for whey they arm themselves against terrorism
Editorial
The Guardian, Monday 19 August 2013 23.49 BST
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NSA-Affäre: Geheimdienst zwang "Guardian" zur Löschung von Snowden-Daten
Die Alternativen hießen: Zerstörung oder Herausgabe von Snowden-Daten. Die Zeitung "The Guardian" ist vom britischen Geheimdienst massiv unter Druck gesetzt worden.

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Ref(s):

[1] deceive  v. (-ving) 1 make (a person) believe what is false; purposely mislead. 2 be unfaithful to, esp. sexually. 3 use deceit.  deceive oneself persist in a mistaken belief.  deceiver n. [POD]

[2] lie2  -n. 1 intentionally false statement (tell a lie). 2 something that deceives. -v. (lies, lied, lying) 1 tell a lie or lies. 2 (of a thing) be deceptive.  give the lie to show the falsity of (a supposition etc.). [Old English] [ibid.]

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Abbreviations:

ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers

I/J/Z-plex; illegitimate IL squats on genocidally ethnically-cleansed = improperly alienated, mainly Palestinian ELO/Os' land/property = IL is an un-remedied crime-scene and *all* I/J/Z-plex (except any actively opposing) are guilty; sole remedy = reparations = revest where possible, adequate = acceptable recompense where not + *sincere* apology

M/I/C/$4a†-plex = military, industrial, Congress (US-speak for parliament); $ = banksters, 4 = 4th estate = MSM+PFBCs, 'a' = academia incl. think-tanks, † = the churches.

MSM = mainstream media (print and broadcast), aka 'corrupt&venal'

neoliberalism = 'economic rationalism,' 'supply-side,' (wicked) privatisations, 'small govt.' = minimised to no égalité etc. + globalisation = wage arbitration etc. = <1% rips off 99%+

PFBCs = publicly-financed broadcasters, like the AusBC

ppp-dd'd = pushed-propaganda paradigm dumbed-down

PRopaganda = PR + propaganda, usual qualifier: 'lying'

SQSHsO = snivelling quisling sycophantic hangers-on

the Enlightenment well summarised by liberté, égalité, fraternité

US-MMH = Media (aka press, radio + TV), Madison Ave., Hollywood

US&/Zs = the US of A and/or Zionists; sometimes indistinguishable

XS-CO2-C*4 = excess CO2 climate-change catastrophe cliff
 (suspected only one-way = spiral-down)

Zionism (latest post-Jabotinsky, '23) = perpetual aggressive war

no joke!

no comment, either

lavabit - killed stone dead by the US war on internet

A quickie; not much time available at this moment ...

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Trigger article:

  «My Fellow Users,
I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. ...» 
[lavabit.com]

Further from above quote "Congress has passed laws that say otherwise."

Me: There is such a thing as the 'democratic covenant,' whereby we the people delegate our 'people-power sovereignty' to representatives (current standard model), who then govern in our name; so-called "representative democracy" supposedly based on "of, by, for the people." IF that covenant is breached THEN so-called 'representatives' lose all legitimacy.

Such breaching began latest after 9/11.

IF so-called 'representatives' are corrupt (this breaching makes them so - if they were not already corrupt, probability approaching 100%), THEN no law they pass may be considered valid, and in particular, no wars may be initiated "in our name," nor any taxation validly imposed upon "us, we the people."

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Fazit: Bah! We are ruled by tyrants; now over-time to fix that.

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PS Also due to time-constraints, no blog item on two of the most infamous days in world history, namely 6&9Aug'45. You could try:
The Hiroshima Myth;
Unaccountable War Crimes and the Lies of US Military History.

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Ref(s):

[1] deceive  v. (-ving) 1 make (a person) believe what is false; purposely mislead. 2 be unfaithful to, esp. sexually. 3 use deceit.  deceive oneself persist in a mistaken belief.  deceiver n. [POD]

[2] lie2  -n. 1 intentionally false statement (tell a lie). 2 something that deceives. -v. (lies, lied, lying) 1 tell a lie or lies. 2 (of a thing) be deceptive.  give the lie to show the falsity of (a supposition etc.). [Old English] [ibid.]

Abbreviations:

ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers

I/J/Z-plex; illegitimate IL squats on genocidally ethnically-cleansed = improperly alienated, mainly Palestinian ELO/Os' land/property = IL is an un-remedied crime-scene and *all* I/J/Z-plex (except any actively opposing) are guilty; sole remedy = reparations = revest where possible, adequate = acceptable recompense where not + *sincere* apology

M/I/C/$4a†-plex = military, industrial, Congress (US-speak for parliament); $ = banksters, 4 = 4th estate = MSM+PFBCs, 'a' = academia incl. think-tanks, † = the churches.

MSM = mainstream media (print and broadcast), aka 'corrupt&venal'

neoliberalism = 'economic rationalism,' 'supply-side,' (wicked) privatisations, 'small govt.' = minimised to no égalité etc. + globalisation = wage arbitration etc. = <1% rips off 99%+

PFBCs = publicly-financed broadcasters, like 'our' AusBC

ppp-dd'd = pushed-propaganda paradigm dumbed-down

PRopaganda = PR + propaganda, usual qualifier: 'lying'

SQSHsO = snivelling quisling sycophantic hangers-on

the Enlightenment well summarised by liberté, égalité, fraternité

US-MMH = Media (aka press, radio + TV), Madison Ave., Hollywood

US&/Zs = the US of A and/or Zionists; sometimes indistinguishable

XS-CO2-C*4 = excess CO2 climate-change catastrophe cliff
 (suspected only one-way = spiral-down)

Zionism (latest post-Jabotinsky, '23) = perpetual aggressive war