how to argue with a liar

.. 1st, find yourself ...

  .. any random I/J/Z-plex person ...

    .. then ask same to justify dispossessing ELO/Os[1]

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In response to your challenge, the outburst of lies mixed with abuse which results will never cease, and you can argue yourself blue in the face - without making even the slightest apparent effect, either on the volume of the spiteful torrent or to the I/J/Z-plex person's outlook. As a bonus, you will probably be accused of anti-semitism (and possibly a peculiar form of libel, baby-eating, etc. - any I/J/Z-plex person daring to pose the above challenge in similar circumstances could expect to be labelled self-hating.)

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Trigger article (long snip):

Major Jewish American Organizations Defend Israel's Humiliation of America
By James Petras
  «"The Government of Israel has insulted the Vice President of the United States, and spat in the face of the President ... they wiped the spit off their faces and smiled politely ... as the saying goes: when you spit in the face of a weakling, he pretends that it is raining" Uri Avnery Israeli Jewish journalist 13/3/2010.

"We (Israel) possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets ... most European capitals are targets of our air force ... the Palestinians should all be deported. Two years ago, only 7 or 8 per cent of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best solution, two months ago, (January 2010), it was 33 percent and now according to a Gallup poll, the figure is 44 percent". Martin Van Crevel Israeli, professor of military history at Hebrew University at Jerusalem and top adviser to the Israeli Armed Forces, March 2, 2010.

Introduction

April 07, 2010

When Israel announced a major new Jews-only building project of 1600 homes in occupied East Jerusalem, it was not only "spitting in the face" of visiting Vice President Biden, it was demonstrating its power to humiliate America and Americans.

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It has been proven beyond a doubt by the recent events, that the ZPC has the ultimate say with the Obama Administration, against the advice of top US military officials and against the basic interests of the American people. In plain English, we are a people colonized and directed by a small, extremist and militarist 'ally' which operates through domestic proxies, who, under any other circumstance, would be openly denounced as traitors.

Can the ZPC be defeated? They are the "most powerful lobby in Washington", to whom Presidents, Administration officials, Generals and Congress people must submit or risk having their careers ruined and being ousted from public office. Meanwhile, outside of the United States, the international community openly despises Israel as a brutal, racist colonial state, a war criminal and chronic violator of human rights and international law...» 
[ICH/Petras]

Comment: The main thrust of the article is the Z-control of the US government, plus the propaganda forced onto the US, and so onto the world as a whole. It is a story of wicked depravity, complicit cowardice and the vilest treachery.

No person of decency can ever relax, whilst confronted by the Z-criminality; the US *could* begin acting as the leaders they claim to be - but 1st, they'd have to throw off their slimy, murderingly criminal, parasitic puppet-masters.

I suggest the following program:

0. Immediately stop all financing to, all arm supplies to & all trading with the Zs. Full stop; move to total BDS; Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions.

1. Introduce exclusively publicly-financed electoral campaigning.

2. Hence outlaw = make strictly forbidden, all political donations.

3. Make all political lobbying via publicly-printed submission only.

4. Start strictly enforcing *just* laws and that across the planet - after all, the US 'owns' the UN (in the same way the Zs currently 'own' the US Congress); the Zs have *NO* (neither moral, legal nor any 'g*d-given') claim - on any Palestinian land whatsoever; IF any Zs wish to live there THEN they must find willing buyers. In the interim, instantly return *ALL* illegitimately acquired aka stolen land to the rightful ELO/Os.

Fazit: The so-called 'state' of Israel is illegitimate. Time justice was not merely mentioned, but must now be done.

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Ref(s):

[1] ELO/O = erstwhile legal owner/occupier, usually Palestinian.